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Interview with Harry Shearer of

TEDDY BEARS' PICNIC

Wednesday, April 3rd (phone)

The king of mockumentaries, Harry Shearer (writer/director/producer/actor/comedian) joins forces with a lot of his former running mates for the production of "Teddy Bears' Picnic". Some may recognize the name, but not the face, since Harry Shearer is the voice behind pop culture characters like Mr. Burns and Ned Flanders on television's "The Simpsons". He also penned and appeared in front of the camera on television's "Saturday Night Live", "The Truman Show", "Independence Day", "My Best Friend's Wedding", and "Le Show". Many may be familiar with some of earlier projects done by Shearer and other collaborators on projects such as: "Best in Show" and "This is Spinal Tap", the film that defined and continues to define the hybrid genre called "mockumentary". For this socio-policital satire, Shearer aims the "mocku" element at the Bohemian Grove, an elitist society headquartered in San Francisco and the Wine Country.

(Shearer) explains: "... Basically, one of my purposes for the movie was to say: 'hey, did you know that this is going on? I bet you didn't.' So I wanted to be pretty close to what I learned about the real place."

Some people think you could have gone further in terms of the controversy surrounding the real life Bohemian Grove group.
(Shearer) "Well, I put in what I knew... There are people who think all manner of things go on there, including ritual child sacrifices... So I basically was trying to adhere to no more than what I could vouch for what is going on there. Because I didn't want it to be silly, or sillier that is to say, than what they actually do; because I kind of wanted people to believe it. Since I know it is true. So I didn't want it to be outlandish or dopey."

 

I believed it because where I went to college, there were a lot of secret societies.
(Shearer) "... The thing is, once you have high ranking people assembled and you close the doors, the fantasizing and the paranoid musing just goes hog wild. So, as I say, to a certain extent I felt it necessary to be constrained by what I actually knew- like what I had actually seen or what people who were there or who remembered told me, or what I had read annals of the club itself." 

So, what became your motivation for making a feature film about the group?
(Shearer) Well, the motivation was to make a movie. I just happen to like movies that are funny about what really goes on as opposed to fantasy... You know, our lives, thanks to the media, are chopped filled of- there is no danger of a fantasy shortage in the United States, at this point. The rumors of a fantasy shortage have been wildly exaggerated. There is a little bit of a reality shortage... The stuff that really entertains me is how goofy we really are. I don't think any imaginative fantasy comes close to being as funny to me as actual human behaviors. My goal is always to just observe how people really are and then maybe just tweak it just a little bit.

What are some of your objectives for this film?
(Shearer) "Well, to have it survive its first weekend. [Originally slated for a March 29th release, "Teddy Bears' Picnic" was pushed back to escape the need to compete with all the Oscar buzz]... It's such a tiny little project, in the world of modern movie-making; we have an advertising budget that has a minus sign in front of it... And we basically have me going around and shouting on my tip toes, trying to draw attention to it... So to have it survive that first weekend is sort of a major goal."

I (KA) hope that the many familiar faces of "repeat offenders", as Shearer would call them, but the average person would call them members of the cast and crew like: Michael McKean, Morgan Fairchild, and George Wendt, among many others, will attract audiences to go see the film. 

What was it like directing so many of your friends?
(Shearer) "Well, for me directing friends- listen, if I could do a movie with nothing but friends as cast and crew, I would be the happiest person in the world... There is enough tension and stress in just getting a movie made, you don't need strangers around. But the good thing about working with colleagues and friends is that hopefully you have that shorthand. So that if you need to correct something or if you need to get something other than what they are doing, you don't need to struggle to find the words to say..."

So is it more intuitive like siblings who play sports together?
(Shearer) "Exactly! You have maybe some reference point from a project you were on twelve years ago that resembles this moment and you can just say that one word and they get it. So, you know, that is a big advantage... and also it's fun. It's tough sometimes when you have just lost a location to remember this, but the goal going into a comedy, I think, is to have fun... If there is a focus to it, it is always better for people in comedy to have fun. It can be infectious, in the best cases."

Yes, I think so. Especially comedians of that caliber, since so many of you have done live performances, you will probably be more in sync with what will fly and what will not with the audience, even though you never truly know for certain.
(Shearer) You never always know and you never know from one moment to the next. I remember when 'This is Spinal Tap' first came out, critics didn't even want to review it... And with 'The Simpsons', when we first started as a show [Although I (KA) remember it and loved it when it was on "The Tracey Ullman Show"], there was stuff about it was a bad role model and it's a bad example, and it's an immoral show. And now there are cover stories in Christian magazines about how it is the most religious show on television... You know you stick around long enough and you are going to hear everyone say everything about it, no matter what you do.

Shearer describes himself as a comic actor, like Martin Short and Michael McKean. Unlike a lot of the other members of the Saturday Night Live Not Ready For Prime Time Players, he did not come up the route of stand up comedy. However, he has a lot of experience as a child actor doing live performances, and as a result has mixed feelings about live television today. He tends to prefer comic characters skits to joke telling. [Some of his favorite live comedians are George Wallace and Eddie Izzard]. Although he considers Rodney Dangerfield a "jeweler of jokes" because he is so talented when it comes to minimalism.

Do you have a preference when it comes to acting, directing, and producing?

(Shearer) Well, they all scratch different itches. Producing, is the least interesting thing to me. It is associated with directing only in that it seems to be in some ways the same kind of work, just focused in a different direction because it is all problem-solving.

Directing is about 9/10 problem solving. It's just, you had an intention, and that can't happen for one reason or another. So now you kind of have to think on your feet- 'all right, what do we do now?' In any low budget, I mean, in a big budget movie you just throw money at it and go back to your trailer until somebody says it's ready. But in low budget directing you're constantly being called upon to be a problem-solver.

Writing's interesting. I don't trust anyone who says that they like writing. I like having written. You know the fun in writing comes from having completed it or done a number of pages that day. Sometimes I will make myself silently chuckle at what I am writing. I am writing a screenplay and a book right now. But a lot of times it's just, especially in long form stuff, you are just trying to get something on the page that day. And that's not that much fun. Directing is sort of a way of completing the writing task. When you have written a movie, you really haven't made anything, you have just done a blueprint of something to be made. So, directing is sort of in a sense, the second half of the writing; it's the completion of the idea.

Acting is almost like a vacation... I think it was Spencer Tracy who said, 'remember your lines and don't bump into the furniture' and that is pretty much all there is to acting... It basically is a pretty simple art, that is not to denigrate when it is well done how powerful it can be... And as an actor, you are not responsible for anyone besides yourself... The scope of your concerns doesn't go beyond your epidermis. ..I know what an actor's fear is and that is humiliation and for me that is being 'bigger'.

How much of this movie was scripted versus improv since you have so many comedians involved?
(Shearer) "We had such a short shooting schedule that we couldn't really afford to shoot or edit in that style (improvisational). So what I said to the actors is 'I know you will come up with ideas. I want the ideas, just tell me what you are thinking about before we get to the set and I will incorporate them into the shooting script.'.. So that we knew what we were doing. A lot of the stuff in the movie was contributed by the actors."

 

"Teddy Bears' Picnic" has some absolutely hilarious moments that made me laugh so hard I think I may have alarmed some of the other critics. The film does meander a bit when the chaos begins during the third act involving a fire at the Grove, however, the film merits a rental at the least.

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